The weather is getting cooler, the discussion is becoming more heated. Maybrit Illner asks: "The hot planet – are we ready to give up?"
▶ ︎ Svenja Schulze (50, SPD). The Minister of the Environment warns against temporary tactical games & # 39; threatens cabinet colleague's & # 39; financial consequences & # 39 ;.
▶ ︎ Wolfgang Kubicki (66, FDP). The party painter is still angry about the climate dispute in the Jamaican polls: "Because of our orientation to the feasible, we have moved to the Donald Trump area!"
▶ ︎ Robert Habeck (58, green). The new eco-superstar used the hot hours for new reports of sympathy.
▶ ︎ Mojib Latif (63). The meteorologist wrote his first book 25 years ago: "Does man change the climate?" Today he leaves the question mark away.
▶ ︎ Max Moor (60). The Swiss ARD presenter was once an organic farmer and bred water buffalo in the vicinity of Berlin. Today he fights against bad & # 39; climate deniers & # 39 ;.
▶ ︎ Petra Pinzler (53). The journalist of "Zeit" lived climate-friendly with her husband and two children, reducing their CO² consumption by about a third.
Politicians, journalists and an expert. Who sets the Zoff-O-Meter on fire?
To begin with, two facts
Illner suggests: "The earth sweats and many say: she has a fever!" A ZDF-Einspieler complements: once Mallorca drives a year and drives a car, farmers produce more greenhouse gases than the industry.
Habeck immediately starts in campaign mode: "The government has not been on the chain for ten years", he says. Meteorologist Latif no longer wants to argue about the actual man-made part of the greenhouse effect: "There are simply no two opinions." Point!
Model of the evening
On the other hand, the meteorologist wants to talk about his exemplary behavior: "I have a personal speed limit, I only drive 100 on the highway, and often a bike, it's not about resignation, but about gain." That's the first applause .
Moor not only brushed the hair extrastramm, he also tackles the sting of the general environmental obligation: "I am against the current, who has always worked with the bad conscience", he hesitates. "I can lie down naked in the forest and I will probably crush some ants!"
Habeck does not want to be an uncool eco-nerd and ventures into a journey to theology: "If we insist that all people behave perfectly," he muses, "we would all be angels, and angels are known as sexless, and they have no fun in life! "
Then he goes to the favorite toy of the Germans to the sphincter: "You can not repair mobile phones," he says. "After two or three years they go broke because the manufacturers build things so the cells are on the batteries, they get hotter and then things are broken."
Most interesting requirement
His suggestion: "Let's make a law that you can open things! That's no voodoo! We can easily change certain rules, and then we go on step by step."
"There must be a price for pollution," says the Minister for the Environment, a little more relaxed and wants to change the "preconditions" into clear language: to transform consumers with new taxes. As always, Kubicki wants to first remove subsidies.
And Illner scoffs at Ökos, "who go to work by bike, but fly to Nepal to walk."
Self-experiment of the evening
"Time" journalist Pinzler tells how she and her family took the personal balance of pollutants with a third for a year: the son caressed the warm shower, the daughter's ride to the pony.
She herself researched the energy consumption in textile production: "My wardrobe is enough for a trip around the world." In the end she asks: "Why is someone allowed to park his car on the street, he can not just put his closet on the street"
Then the Zoff-O meter starts
The meteorologist quickly assures himself of the slightly cheaper version by pointing out that "America is a complete idiot".
When it comes to coal, finishing it is funny. "We could immediately put twenty coal-fired plants out of service," says Habeck. The Minister for the Environment is too fast: "We have to take people with us," she says. "We have to organize this socially compatible!"
Government songs of the evening
Then it is party politics, Habeck plays opposition leader and the ecological assault rifle rolls into the shooting position.
"Europe wants to halve the CO2 emissions of the car fleet by 2030," he says, reproachfully referring to the Minister for the Environment on his left. "Mrs Schulze thought that was good, participated", but: "Mr. Scholz objected!"
Habeck's strict admonition: "Do not say that the SPD is the pioneer in the field of climate protection!" But the minister is still unabashedly putting forward more arguments for a cautious change. The Greens boss has talked in anger and continues to alternate, until her collar bursts: "Let me finally get ready!"
Helps nothing: now everyone is confused. "Whoever rules in this country", Habeck asks theatrically. And who rules in this talk show? Illner clearly lacks the necessary seriousness, she prefers to trust her humor skills. Your conclusion: "Enjoy the multiplication of the acquired insights! Stay happy – somewhere!"
Quote of the evening
"Even in the region where coal is present, people have their home!" (Schulze).
This time only a little rhetorical outrage gymnastics and no fake moral principles drive, instead, unfolding visors and great desire for problem solving: this was a conversation in the category "fire free".