N After the summer holiday, in which the public-law talk shows that a mandatory break has already been proposed, Anne Will starts again with a current topic. However, only in the title: "The drought summer – how should we change our behavior?" The focus of the program is organic pigs and cheap tickets.
Guests are federal minister of agriculture Julia Klöckner, green party leader Annalena Baerbock, NRW Minister of Economic Affairs Andreas Pinkwart von de FDP, Hans-Joachim Schellnhuber of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Research and Werner Schwarz, vice-president of the German Farmers' Union and farmer in Schleswig-Holstein.
After 2003 this summer is already the second century in a century. Schellnhuber sees a strong connection with climate change. "In extreme cases we can show that it is the hand of the human being who plays there," explains the climate researcher in Potsdam. However, it is not clear that the second century of summer next year will be followed by a third. In 2017 it rained above average. Schellnhuber: "We get more extremes."
Will tries to score with farmers' rule
Will has come up with a farmer's rule for the first question about agriculture: "If it does not rain for weeks, has climate change erupted?" Farmer Werner Schwarz finds it only moderately funny, but admits: "Otherwise we could sell a surplus of grain, now we need everything ourselves for their own animals." Schwarz leads a pig with 4500 sows and piglets.
Although agriculture is a heavily subsidized sector of the German economy, about half of the EU budget are agricultural subsidies. Therefore controversial: the discussion about a possible compensation of German farmers after this summer of up to a billion euros.
The fact that tax money will flow and that bad harvests are not part of the economic risk is already clear in Anne Will. Klöckner, Baerbock and Pinkwart unanimously emphasize demand-oriented payments in their answers. The Greens boss wants the farmers to ask for the money, although organic farming, but she also demands: "In cases where farmers are in need, you have to look specifically, who needs support."
the hostess recalls that in the summer of 2003 only 72 million euros in compensation was paid, a counterweight to Klöckner, they can not adjust the harvest balance to the broadcast dates. She will only comment on the balance on an amount. First, it involves a serious calculation of the damage.
Reform of EU agricultural subsidies
An agreement on state aid payments? Climate researcher Schellnhuber thinks that's good. "Agriculture needs to think about how they will get through the century if we change our climate." The reason: Compared to what could happen to us with climate change, farmers would already have a little bit. Drought is a relatively big problem. Baerbrock proposes to reform EU agricultural subsidies: "We must start from the principle of promoting size."
Schwarz does not want to lead the discussion about reforms at all. "A special year requires special measures, combine that with the agricultural policy does not meet the requirements."
Julia Klöckner, in whose portfolio potential requirements were met, sees a similar situation. "We should not play the ecological versus conventional agriculture," says the CDU politician. "There is not the better or worse farmer."
Is there the more sustainable farmer? Will asks. "In 20 years' time we will have to feed two billion more people, which does not create ecological farming because the yields are lower," Klöckner says. Not every family could afford organic food.
SUVs, cruise ships, low-cost airlines – the dubious Komsumverhalten
And at this point perhaps the most important climate politician came on the field: the consumer.
71 worried about federal elections Percentage of Germans around climate change, Will remembers. New registrations of SUVs, with capacities on cruise ships and low-cost airlines, lower prices. How should this consumption behavior be explained?
Schellnhuber puts it in a nutshell. "People feel that what I do alone makes no difference." He demands that politics develop a story in which climate protection is more attractive. Sounds good, but is not very specific.
NRW Minister of Economic Affairs Pinkwart also admits that a mistake has been made in politics when dealing with companies and consumers. "In part, we only looked at CO2, which is a mistake by politicians," says the FDP politician. German car manufacturers and motorists have been bathing this mistake at the moment because for many years the diesel was considered the engine with low CO2 emissions. Meanwhile, it is clear that nitrogen oxides are also problematic for the climate – and the engines of many explode.
Will Pinkwart give an even more concrete answer: should we forbid it, that can be flown for 15 euros from Berlin to Cologne, if a train ticket costs 120 euros?
Bans rejects Pinkwart and he would not even touch the free prizes. It would be conceivable to extend the trade in CO2 certificates, which had already been implemented in the industry with moderately success, to mobility or housing. In the case of a kerosene tax, the FDP politician only becomes aware after repeated question. His short answer: "Of course we can introduce a kerosene tax, but throughout the EU." Airlines are tax-free so far.
Groen advocates kerosene tax
Baerbock wants the kerosene tax, as well as a VAT change. Because cross-border flights are exempt from tax – but in the train it is due. Also from the lignite, Germany should leave as quickly as possible. "If we continue like this, we will miss the German climate protection target in 2020", warns the Green Party chairman.
At the end of the program, Anne Will turns to another studio guest. Roda Verheyen, an environmental lawyer from Hamburg, challenges the EU on behalf of nine families because it is not ambitious enough about climate protection. The complaint to the European Court of Justice has now been approved. Verheyen confesses that "the judges have never seen such a thing there."
Climate protection as a human right
Among the claimants is a family that runs a biorestaurant on the North Sea island of Langeoog. She is afraid of her future and that of the island. "In my opinion it is self-evident that climate protection is a human right," explains Verheyen. The round is half annoyed, half eager.
No one can judge whether the complaint is successful. Climatologist Schellnhuber, however, finds the argumentation of climate protection a fundamental right. "The family has the hope that their gastronomy and their island will be preserved, and if we move on to the goal of three to four degrees, there will no longer be the island of Langeoog."